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Cosa sta accadendo davvero in Russia? I giornali occidentali hanno dato una quasi totale univoca chiave di lettura dei fatti di Mosca e San Pietroburgo. Ho cercato di inserire fonti diverse anche straniere proprio per avere un numero di elementi maggiore, ma resto convinto, come diceva Kapuscinski, che solo chi vive in dei luoghi può dare un parere davvero prezioso, spesso più utile di tanti articoli o servizi dei media scritti da giornalisti che non conoscono bene la realtà russa (per fortuna si trovano anche pezzi di grande interesse elaborati da professionisti competenti in materia). Mi auguro che gli amici russi del Forum o gli italiani che vivono a Mosca o San Pietroburgo (città protagoniste degli ultimi eventi) possano dare un contributo per aiutarci a capire qualcosa in più, un po' come Gringox ha fatto sull'Ucraina dando un suo parere in diretta sull'aria che si respira a Kiev e riguardante l'attuale crisi politica :wink:

Ps: Non servono necessariamente grandi e complesse analisi ma è sufficiente anche una semplice testimonianza o esprimere un'emozione, una sensazione, un dubbio :smile: :wink:

Ecco chi sarà l'erede di Putin alla predidenza della Russia Link

Rapi tieni fermo la mano :-D :-D :-D

A parte gli scherzi, Putin ha paura di perdere il potere e non si sente più sicuro come qualche anno fà. Poi sta seguendo i consigli di Berlusconi quindi è normale che ci sia un po di confusione, ma sono convito che tutto si risolverà per il meglio, Kasparov ritornerà a giocare a scacchi, e Plushenko tornerà a Pattinare.

Bruxelles- La Commissione Ue e' 'molto preoccupata' per gli incidenti a Mosca e a San Pietroburgo durante la manifestazioni anti-Putin. Lo ha sottolineato un portavoce dell'esecutivo europeo, rilevando che la liberta' di espressione ed assemblea sono valori che anche la Russia si e' impegnata a rispettare. Il rispetto da parte della Russia di tali diritti sara' discusso in una riunione della Troika Ue-Russia, lunedi' in Lussemburgo, a margine del consiglio dei ministri degli Esteri Ue.

Fonte: Ansa

Nella fabbrica Heineken a San Pietroburgo continua lo sciopero all'italiana: gli operai continuano a lavorare facendo tutte le operazione seguendo scrupulosamente tutte le regole e normi. Molti caricatori sono portati al parco di riparazioni, sono stati scaricati 2 volte di meno carri. Nella città dappertutto manca la birra Heineken (molto bene! :-D ). Nel 2° giorno dello sciopero sono venuti qualche crumiro e nel 3° giorno i carrelli elevatori sono stati guidati dai manager di livello medio. :ccs

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Berlusconi, poteva risparmiare il commento ai disordini avvenuti a S.Pietroburgo.

Articolo di Galina Stolyarova (St. Petersburg Times):

Violence erupted at the end of an opposition rally in central St. Petersburg on Sunday as riot police wielding truncheons beat and chased protesters walking to a nearby metro station.
Police detained about 120 participants of the Dissenters’ March including National Bolshevik leader Eduard Limonov, head of the St. Petersburg branch of Yabloko Maxim Reznik and Sergei Gulyayev, local coordinator of The Other Russia coalition, which organized the event.
A similar rally was held in Moscow on Saturday where more than 170 people were detained, including opposition leader and former world chess champion Garry Kasparov. Dozens were beaten by police.
President Vladimir Putin, who has not publicly commented on the weekend crackdown, was in St. Petersburg on Saturday night to watch a martial arts event billed as a “fight without rules” at the Ice Palace.
Flanked by guests former Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi and former Hollywood action star Jean-Claude Van Damme, Putin watched Team Russia beat Team America.
St. Petersburg authorities had sanctioned Sunday’s rally which began at noon under heavy police surveillance — including two tight circles of OMON and Interior Ministry troops, metal detectors, barriers and a helicopter — at Pionerskaya Ploshchad. Authorities, however, refused to grant protesters permission to march to City Hall.
Participants began to disperse at around 2 p.m. when a group of them clashed with OMON riot police when walking to Pushkinskaya metro station.
Officers waded into groups who were trying to leave the scene carrying flags, including a group of National Bolshevik Protesters. They were violently beaten with batons.
When the police exercised force, the crowd started chanting “Shame, shame!”
The police then made a sudden move forward and began to chase protesters, beating a number with their truncheons, and hitting other people who were in their path, including some elderly women who had been waiting for the metro station to open.
Yabloko member Olga Tsepilova suffered in the clash and was sent to hospital with a broken nose and concussion. Gulyayev received multiple bruises and his left arm was broken.
A number of people were beaten over the head as scared passersby sought refuge in the metro station.
Rally participants spoke with outrage about the treatment they received from the police.
“The police were battering people without even looking at them,” said Reznik. “At least one passerby, apparently scared by the violence, suffered a heart attack and was sent to hospital.”
Contesting official figures of 120 activists detained, Reznik also said several hundred of activists were detained and dozens beaten.
The police, in turn, accused the opposition of “staging provocations.”
The meeting was organized by The Other Russia, a coalition of groups that oppose Kremlin policies. The local branch of Yabloko supported the event.
Demonstrators chanted slogans such as “Free Elections!” “No More Corruption!” “Matviyenko Resign!” “Putin Is An Enemy Of The State!” “We Are Not Afraid” and “No Police State!”
Chants and slogans targeted Kremlin policies, with some protesters demanding an end to corruption and greater accountability of the authorities. Others called for free debate on television and demanded an end to police violence against political demonstrations.
“The rally is a reminder to the authorities that they serve the people, and not vice versa,” said Gulyayev. “The most compelling result of the Kremlin’s policies is the genocide of the Russian people. Russia’s population has been shrinking at high speed: we are losing the equivalent of two Piskaryovsky Memorial Cemeteries every year.”
Piskaryovsky Memorial Cemetery is the last resting place of more than 470,000 people who died in the Siege of Leningrad during World War II.
The rally’s organizers had invited Governor Valentina Matviyenko to attend and respond to criticism but the invitation was turned down.
“No constructive dialogue is possible during such heated street events, where emotions run high,” the governor told reporters last week.
The protesters accused the authorities of cowardliness and hypocrisy. Limonov said the state has gone to war with its people.
“Look around at all the OMON and police trying to stifle us! It shows how scared the authorities are, and they are scared for a good reason,” Limonov said.
“They do not want a strong and organized opposition because they know that the people are with us, and, if well organized, there are enough of ‘the discontented’ to overthrow this corrupt gang ruling the country.”
St. Petersburg forces were reinforced by counterparts from Pskov, Novgorod and Arkhangelsk.
According to the organizers, the meeting drew over 3,000 supporters and there were at least 1,500 police present. The police said the event gathered 500 demonstrators and did not release deployment figures.
The number of marchers represented a tiny fraction of St. Petersburg’s 4.6 million inhabitants.
Earlier in the day a double line of officers in riot gear tightly cordoned off the meeting area. A wider cordon of police surrounded the square. Those participants who managed to get into the square had to go through metal detectors. They were then penned in by barriers and a solid police cordon.
After 12 p.m., the time the event was due to begin, access to the scene was prevented and a crowd of protesters began to build up outside the cordon. A police helicopter hovered low over the scene and the sound of its engines at times drowned out the voices of speakers.
Towards the end of the meeting, which had been planned to last until 2 p.m., police numbers appeared to increase and officers moved in closer to the protesters.
“This is scary and shocking,” said female pensioner Albina Bychkovskaya among the protesters. “It looks like a trap. I can’t understand why so many police have been deployed. This tight chain of officers is like a noose, and their riot gear is meant to scare the hell out of us. But I’m not going home.”
As demonstrators excluded by the barriers tried to get closer to the speakers, police lines held firm and prevented them getting access.
When challenged to let people through, one soldier in the uniform of Interior Ministry troops said: “I am here to keep order and prevent a riot. I am not interested in politics.”

He declined to give his name.
“I am not listening to the speeches, and I could not care less about what they are saying,” a member of the special police task force said as he stood in an external cordon in full riot gear. “We don’t discuss the orders we get, we follow them.”
Besieged by police, the speakers emphasized the growing importance of street politics in Russia.
“It is often believed that actors should stay away from politics and as a performer I agree with that, with the only exception: it does not work in a police state, which is what modern Russia is,” said St. Petersburg actor Alexei Devotchenko. “My profession aside, it is a matter of civil responsibility to get involved.”
Andrei Dmitriyev, leader of the St. Petersburg National Bolsheviks, said he and his followers were determined to continue to protest.
“Our party is under a double ban; it has been branded extremist by the authorities but nothing can stop us from coming to rallies as ordinary Russian citizens,” Dmitriyev said. “We are not afraid.”
The crowd on Sunday reflected The Other Russia coalition’s differing and sometimes opposing factions, but people said they were willing to join forces despite the differences in their political beliefs.
“I cannot agree with everything that is being said at this meeting. But I will stay here until the end because I, too, disagree with what is happening to Russia. It is drowning in corruption,” said Dmitry, a student of the St. Petersburg Electrical Technical University.
“Students at my university are constantly approached with offers to do street campaigning for the pro-presidential Nashi movement,” he went on. “My mother was tempted with a tin of caviar and a cake to vote for [pro-Kremlin] United Russia [at recent local elections it won]. All this is happening openly and I find it disgusting.”
Whole quarters in the neighborhood around the location of the meeting were cordoned off by police and closed to both traffic and pedestrians. Marata Ulitsa, along which the protesters had intended to march toward City Hall, was entirely closed off by police.
Earlier, on Friday and Saturday, OMON had raided Yabloko’s St. Petersburg headquarters to confiscate publicity material about the rally.
Officers also demanded contact information about the people and companies involved in the printing and distribution of the material.
Also on Saturday, several people who distributed leaflets about the rally were detained by police.

Fonte: St.Petersburg Times

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Berlusconi, poteva risparmiare il commento ai disordini avvenuti a S.Pietroburgo.

Berlusconi poteva risparmiare anche la visita in Russia, visto che non ha incarichi ufficiali in politica!

Reporters Without Borders condemns the use of excessive force by police during last weekend’s demonstrations in Moscow and St. Petersburg. “The arrests and use of violence, in which journalists were among the victims, are unacceptable,” the organisation said. “We call on the authorities to apologise to the media concerned, and to identify and punish those responsible for these press freedom violations.”

Organised by The Other Russia movement and banned by the authorities, the demonstrations on 14 and 15 April led to clashes between police and opponents of President Vladimir Putin, and more than 400 arrests. Two of The Other Russia’s leaders, Garry Kasparov and Eduard Limonov, were held for several hours in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Some ten journalists were among the hundreds of people who were clubbed, kicked or manhandled when the broke up the demonstrations. Several German journalists with the public TV stations ARD and ZDF were beaten and arrested. A Japanese newspaper’s photographer was also beaten and the Reuters correspondent was roughed up. Journalists working for local media including Kommersant, Novaya Gazeta and Vedomosti were also the victims of violence. Other journalists were arrested during the demonstration. All had official accreditation.

The Civil Chamber of Russia (Economic and Social Council) condemned the “cruelty and violence of the security forces towards journalists doing their professional duty.” The chamber’s commission called on the interior ministry to “urgently examine the dangerous tendency to use force against journalists.”

Journalists were also arrested during The Other Russia rallies on 3 March in St. Petersburg and on 24 March in Nizhniy Novgorod. The demonstrations are being held a time of growing political tension, eight months before legislative elections and less than a year before a presidential election.

Fonte: Reporter senza frontiere

Russia, Strasburgo sostiene Kasparov

BRUXELLES- Il Parlamento Ue da' il suo sostegno all'opposizione russa 'per il raggiungimento della democrazia e della liberta' di espressione'. Lo ha sottolineato il presidente dell'euroassemblea, Poettering, che ha preso contatto con l'ex campione di scacchi Kasparov e l'ex premier Kasyanov. 'Il comportamento delle forze di sicurezza russe in questi giorni rappresentano una violazione delle regole fondamentali della democrazia e della liberta' di opinione e di espressione' ha detto Poettering.

Fonte: Ansa

Le cariche della polizia antisomma di Vladimir Putin contro gli oppositori del Cremlino generano «molta preoccupazione» nell'Unione europea. Con grande cautela, e respingendo al mittente le domande di chiedeva se Bruxelles intendesse condannare i fatti di Mosca e San Pietroburgo, la commissaria Ue alle Relazioni esterne Benita Ferrero-Waldner ha fatto sapere - attraverso la portavoce - che la questione sarà certamente sollevata lunedì a Lussemburgo, quando la troika Esteri incontrerà a Lussemburgo il capo della diplomazia russa. La questione è spinosa. Per ragioni politiche ed economiche, l’Unione lavora da tempo alla costruzione relazioni stabili con l’orso ex sovietico. L’affare, però, non può essere con concluso ad ogni costo. E la violazione dei diritti più elementari, se confermata, rischia di rivelarsi un ostacolo insormontabile per il dialogo.

Su certe cose non si può transigere. «La libertà di espressione e di riunione sono valori molto importanti a cui la Russia si è impegnata come membro del Consiglio d’Europa - è il messaggio inviato da Ferrero-Waldner -, a maggior ragione in questa fase importante nella fase pre-elettorale». Per questo, fa sapere Bruxelles, «la Commissione continuerà a sollevare le sue preoccupazioni sui diritti civili, la libertà di stampa e di riunione negli incontri bilaterali». Sinora gli appelli sono caduti nel nulla, e la voce grossa fatta dopo l’omicidio della giornalista Anna Politkovskaia, non ha sortito altro che effetti minori.

Da questa parte dell’ex Cortina di ferro viene da chiedersi cosa si possa fare per accertare la verità sugli scontri e gli arresti del fine settimana. In realtà, gli strumenti pratici sono nulli o quasi. La portavoce della Ferrero-Waldner ha dovuto ammettere che l’esecutivo Ue «non ha capacità indipendenti di indagine», costretta poi ad arrampicarsi sugli specchi e a dire che «la nostra delegazione a Mosca ha contatti e raccoglie informazioni per noi». L'unica possibilità di pressione è nelle mani dei governi. Cosa che porta il problema su un difficilissimo crinale diplomatico.

Tutto ruota intorno all'accordo di associazione per il quale la Commissione attende dai Ventisette il mandato per aprire un negoziato ufficiale. La procedura, che richiede un consenso unanime, è bloccata dal veto imposto dai polacchi come ritorsione al bando dell’export verso la Russia delle carni nazionali. La speranza, ora come ora, è che il via libera giunga a metà maggio. Mosca ne ha bisogno quanto Bruxelles, anche perché vuole una domanda stabile per le sue risorse energetiche. Per questo la pressione politica dei Ventisette può dare dei risultati. A patto, ovviamente, che sia volontà comune sfruttare le esigenze del gigante russo e, nel nome delle mutue esigenze si faccia il possibile per riportarlo a pieno titolo sulla strada già intrapresa, del rispetto dei diritti tanto elementari quanto fondamentali.

Fonte: La Stampa

Госдума будет искать авторов "Маршей несогласных"

Депутаты Госдумы намерены разобраться, кто толкает граждан на проведение так называемых "Маршей несогласных", заявил спикер Госдумы Борис Грызлов.


"Будет сформирована рабочая группа, которая выяснит, кто стоит за этими провокациями и на чьи деньги были провокации", - сказал лидер единоросов, отвечая на вопрос "Интерфакса". Он сообщил, что эта рабочая группа будет сформирована на заседании Совета думы в ближайший вторник. Грызлов убежден, что "правоохранительные органы сделали все правильно" в ходе массовых акций, состоявшихся в минувшие выходные. Спикер уверен, что милиция действовала в рамках закона.

С инициативой создания рабочей группы выступил в минувшую среду на заседании палаты глава думского комитета по безопасности Владимир Васильев. Его предложение стало ответом на инициативу независимого депутата Владимира Рыжкова провести парламентское расследование по фактам превышения работниками силовых структур своих должностных полномочий в ходе этих акций - такие факты, как утверждал Рыжков, были. В свою очередь Владимир Васильев предложил ограничиться созданием рабочей группы, сославшись на тот положительный опыт, который уже был накоплен депутатами в рамках действия аналогичной рабочей группы по расследованию событий в Кондопоге.

Накануне союз журналистов России распространил заявление, в котором содержится протест против действий правоохранительных органов в отношении журналистов, освещавших "марши несогласных" в Москве, Петербурге и Hижнем Hовгороде. "Применение силы по отношению к журналистам, исполняющим свой профессиональный долг, незаконное задержание их, равно как и последующее оправдание этих эксцессов руководителями силовых ведомств свидетельствует о глубоком кризисе правоохранительной системы и отсутствии действенного контроля за ней", - говорится в заявлении СЖР. При этом в нем отмечается, что "журналисты, избитые ОМОHом и незаконно задержанные, имели при себе редакционные удостоверения, а многие из них были одеты в специальные жилеты с надписью "Пресса". По мнению авторов заявления, "такой факт не дает считать этот произвол случайным".

"Мы требуем от генерального прокурора провести тщательную проверку заявлений пострадавших журналистов, их уже более 30, включая заявления иностранных коллег, возбуждения уголовного расследования, в том числе по статье "воспрепятствование законной профессиональной деятельности журналистов", а также провести проверку закрытых ведомственных инструкций МВД, допускающих откровенное нарушение закона", - говорится в заявлении СЖР.

В нем также содержится требование публичных объяснений от руководства МВД, а также от мэров Москвы, Санкт-Петербурга и Hижнего Hовгорода по поводу случившегося. "Союз журналистов заявляет, что намерен провести собственное расследование незаконных действий милиции против наших коллег и обнародовать его результаты", - подчеркивают авторы заявления.

В прошедшие выходные в Москве и Санкт-Петербурге различные политические движения организовали несколько массовых акций. В Москве 14 апреля в акции участвовало 18 тысяч человек, правоохранительные органы задержали около 250 участников марша. В воскресенье, 15 апреля, на Пионерской площади Санкт-Петербурга в рамках "марша несогласных" также прошел митинг, в котором участвовали около 500 человек. Организаторы "марша несогласных", помимо митинга, хотели провести демонстрацию, на которую городское правительство не дало разрешения. По информации местного ГУВД, милиция задержала 170 участников акции.

Fonte: Gazeta

Moscow City Court on Thursday declared Eduard Limonov’s National Bolshevik Party an extremist organization and declared it illegal.

Moscow prosecutor Yury Syomin told Interfax News Agency his office — which initiated the case — was satisfied with the outcome.

Last month a Moscow prosecutor banned the party on extremism charges, suspending the radical opposition group for the second time since it was outlawed in June 2006.

Party members now risk being sent to prison for up to four years if they decide to take to the streets.

National Bolsheviks say the legal moves against them will not stop them from fighting for their cause.

Limonov called the decision illegitimate and branded the whole trial a farce. The NBP said it would lodge an appeal against the verdict in the Supreme Court.

The National Bolshevik Party has been an active member of The Other Russia coalition of opposition parties that includes Garry Kasparov’s United Civil Front and Mikhail Kasyanov’s People’s Democratic Union among others.

Limonov linked the moves against his party with the success of the recent series of opposition rallies in St. Petersburg and Moscow which drew several thousand protesters.

“We are not extremists, and we are not going to give up,” said Andrei Dmitriyev, National Bolshevik leader in St. Petersburg, adding that if the ban on the party is not lifted, he and his members will continue taking part in protest events as Russian citizens, and not as a party members.

Fonte: St. Petersburg Times

The Moscow City Court on Thursday declared the unregistered National Bolshevik Party an extremist organization, making it possible for the authorities to arrest anyone who takes part in its activities.
Judge Alla Nazarova also ruled in favor of a request from city prosecutors to ban the organization.
Writer Eduard Limonov, who created the organization in 1993, told reporters outside the courthouse that the ruling was "politically motivated and unjust."
"This precedent will enable the authorities to do the same thing to parties or people who hold alternative views," Limonov said.
Limonov said he expected a wave of criminal investigations to be opened into the activities of people associated with the organization.

Participation in an extremist organization is punishable by a fine of 200,000 rubles ($7,800) or two years in prison. "I will not organize another party because it would be destroyed just as this one was," Limonov said. "But I will not change my beliefs."
The unregistered and now banned National Bolshevik Party earned notoriety for its audacious escapades directed against the authorities. Over the years, members threw food at senior officials, tried to seize federal buildings and hung huge posters on buildings calling on President Vladimir Putin to resign.
Limonov himself was arrested in the Altai region in April 2001 and subsequently convicted of ordering members of his organization to buy weapons. He was cleared of the more serious charges of terrorism, forming a private army to invade Kazakhstan and plotting to overthrow the government.
He was released in June 2003 after serving nearly 25 months of a four-year sentence. Immediately after his release, he told reporters that he was going to get serious about trying to make a difference in Russia. "I don't want to waste my time on lightweight ventures," he said.
Recently the organization made headlines by taking part in the Dissenters' Marches in Moscow and St. Petersburg as part of opposition coalition The Other Russia.
But none of Limonov's erstwhile allies were to be seen at the court on Thursday.
Limonov's lawyer, Sergei Belyak, said he was "surprised that no one came to the trial to support Limonov."
"Where is the Communist Party, which pretends to be in the opposition? Where are his allies? If this were happening in Europe, every political party in the country would issue a statement. But here they don't seem to care what's happening to their colleagues," he said.
Lead prosecutor Irina Semyonova, who argued the prosecution's case in the two-day trial, said she was satisfied with the verdict.
"We have proven that the organization exists and that Limonov is its leader on the basis of publications and statements by [Limonov's] supporters," Semyonova said.
On Wednesday, Limonov insisted that the organization had ceased to exist in 2005 when the Supreme Court annulled its registration. He said he could not be the head of an organization that did not exist.
Belyak called the ruling a "farce," and vowed to appeal it to the Supreme Court.
Some 20 journalists and Limonov supporters were present at Thursday's hearing, including Limonov's wife, actress Yekaterina Volkova, and the couple's 6-month-old son.
Volkova said she was prepared for the verdict. "But it is impossible to ban an idea," she said.
State-owned newspaper Rossiiskaya Gazeta jumped the gun in its Thursday edition, publishing a short report on Wednesday's hearing under the headline: "There Is No Such Party: A Court Banned the NBP."
Belyak called the publication "a real slap in a face of the judicial system."
The pro-Putin youth group Young Russia issued a statement Thursday saying 100 members would demonstrate at the Prosecutor General's Office on Friday to demand that Garry Kasparov's United Civil Front and Mikhail Kasyanov's Popular Democratic Union -- both of which are part of The Other Russia coalition -- be deemed extremist.

Fonte: The Moscow Times